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		<title>By: &#8220;Let&#8217;s go to BO18&#8243; is Lebanese for &#8220;It&#8217;s only 4am, why not party some more?!&#8221; &#124; some guy in lebanon</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#8220;Let&#8217;s go to BO18&#8243; is Lebanese for &#8220;It&#8217;s only 4am, why not party some more?!&#8221; &#124; some guy in lebanon</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Will Donovan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will Donovan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 18:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>j.k.h i bet this picture would confound many. great pic</description>
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		<title>By: J.K.H</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.K.H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 17:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who&#039;s the bad guy in this picture?

http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2009/09/03/world/03jerusalemB.ready.html</description>
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<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2009/09/03/world/03jerusalemB.ready.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2009/09/03/world/03jerusalemB.ready.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jillian C. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jillian C. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 19:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will,

Here&#039;s something you made me think of with your comment (something I can unfortunately only tell using my own life as background).  I grew up with no real knowledge of people of other races and in a town with like, 20 non-white people.  I had the mainstream media as my main source of information.

And yet, upon learning about the conflict later on (college, let&#039;s say), I understood it as you do.  

So, what is it REALLY about Americans that makes them think this way?  I would argue that - again, save for Jews and fundie Christians, who have the Biblical argument - anyone who does learn about the conflict genuinely would feel the way we do.  I live in Boston, where I find that, more often than not, people agree with me (though they&#039;re not actually DOING anything about it, which is another story).  So what are we looking at when we say &quot;those Americans?&quot;  The people who rely solely on the mainstream media for news, and the religious folks!

(An aside: I highly recommend you institute a feature on your blog that allows people to subscribe to comments.  It&#039;s practically a built-in in Wordpress.  I would&#039;ve responded two days ago, had I remembered.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will,</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s something you made me think of with your comment (something I can unfortunately only tell using my own life as background).  I grew up with no real knowledge of people of other races and in a town with like, 20 non-white people.  I had the mainstream media as my main source of information.</p>
<p>And yet, upon learning about the conflict later on (college, let&#8217;s say), I understood it as you do.  </p>
<p>So, what is it REALLY about Americans that makes them think this way?  I would argue that &#8211; again, save for Jews and fundie Christians, who have the Biblical argument &#8211; anyone who does learn about the conflict genuinely would feel the way we do.  I live in Boston, where I find that, more often than not, people agree with me (though they&#8217;re not actually DOING anything about it, which is another story).  So what are we looking at when we say &#8220;those Americans?&#8221;  The people who rely solely on the mainstream media for news, and the religious folks!</p>
<p>(An aside: I highly recommend you institute a feature on your blog that allows people to subscribe to comments.  It&#8217;s practically a built-in in WordPress.  I would&#8217;ve responded two days ago, had I remembered.)</p>
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		<title>By: Tweets that mention A Thousand Words with some Discussion &#124; some guy in lebanon -- Topsy.com</title>
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		<title>By: Will Donovan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will Donovan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 17:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i don&#039;t want this post to become a discussion about religion, because the conflict doesn&#039;t have to be seen through that lens. in fact, i find that it begins to make less and less sense when that lens is applied, and simultaneously it becomes more and more hyperbolic.

atw i&#039;m not disowning your comment, i&#039;m merely stating - this is not a forum to discuss the merits of zionism or islam. i hear enough of that in lebanon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i don&#8217;t want this post to become a discussion about religion, because the conflict doesn&#8217;t have to be seen through that lens. in fact, i find that it begins to make less and less sense when that lens is applied, and simultaneously it becomes more and more hyperbolic.</p>
<p>atw i&#8217;m not disowning your comment, i&#8217;m merely stating &#8211; this is not a forum to discuss the merits of zionism or islam. i hear enough of that in lebanon.</p>
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		<title>By: ATW</title>
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		<dc:creator>ATW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 16:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found you through a Wordpress post referral. 

Very intriguing thought process and very accurate. I&#039;d like to add my 2 cents if I may: that the root of the problem is really the stealing of Palestinian lands by Zionists! This was stated by the founders of Israel (quotes posted on my site) or Haartez articles confirming such facts or even Israeli historians and professors attesting to this: as in Illan Pappe and Dr. Sand&#039;s findings! 

In simple terms, Ashkanazi and Sephardic Judaism, has nothing to do with Palestine or the origin of the Hebrews. Yet the Zionist movement succeeded in manipulating the truth and convinced us that these Jews are really descendants of the Israelites! Hardly true! 

The other problem is religion: that Abraham, we were taught was Jewish! Excuse me? Judaism started really after Moses and NOT before! According to Islamic and Arabic History, the early inhabitants of Palestine are bani-Israe&#039;el (Israelites) and these are the 12 tribes. They, according to Islamic history, are Muslims in their beliefs and as such hold Abraham, Ismael, Issac, Jacob (Israel).. David and Solomon and all the way to Moses in the highest regard and respect. 

But Zionism also convinced us that those people were Jewish! 

As Dr. Sand pointed out, (http://attendingtheworld.wordpress.com/2008/10/09/on-israels-bestseller-listwhen-and-how-was-the-jewish-people-invented/) 

“It is not taught in Israeli schools but most of the early Zionist leaders, including David Ben Gurion [Israel’s first prime minister], believed that the Palestinians were the descendants of the area’s original Jews. They believed the Jews had later converted to Islam.”

ATW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found you through a WordPress post referral. </p>
<p>Very intriguing thought process and very accurate. I&#8217;d like to add my 2 cents if I may: that the root of the problem is really the stealing of Palestinian lands by Zionists! This was stated by the founders of Israel (quotes posted on my site) or Haartez articles confirming such facts or even Israeli historians and professors attesting to this: as in Illan Pappe and Dr. Sand&#8217;s findings! </p>
<p>In simple terms, Ashkanazi and Sephardic Judaism, has nothing to do with Palestine or the origin of the Hebrews. Yet the Zionist movement succeeded in manipulating the truth and convinced us that these Jews are really descendants of the Israelites! Hardly true! </p>
<p>The other problem is religion: that Abraham, we were taught was Jewish! Excuse me? Judaism started really after Moses and NOT before! According to Islamic and Arabic History, the early inhabitants of Palestine are bani-Israe&#8217;el (Israelites) and these are the 12 tribes. They, according to Islamic history, are Muslims in their beliefs and as such hold Abraham, Ismael, Issac, Jacob (Israel).. David and Solomon and all the way to Moses in the highest regard and respect. </p>
<p>But Zionism also convinced us that those people were Jewish! </p>
<p>As Dr. Sand pointed out, (<a href="http://attendingtheworld.wordpress.com/2008/10/09/on-israels-bestseller-listwhen-and-how-was-the-jewish-people-invented/" rel="nofollow">http://attendingtheworld.wordpress.com/2008/10/09/on-israels-bestseller-listwhen-and-how-was-the-jewish-people-invented/</a>) </p>
<p>“It is not taught in Israeli schools but most of the early Zionist leaders, including David Ben Gurion [Israel’s first prime minister], believed that the Palestinians were the descendants of the area’s original Jews. They believed the Jews had later converted to Islam.”</p>
<p>ATW</p>
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		<title>By: Best of the Rest: A Thousand Words with some Discussion &#171; Caledoniyya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Best of the Rest: A Thousand Words with some Discussion &#171; Caledoniyya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 13:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Read the cogent write-up by Will Donovan here. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: cd</title>
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		<dc:creator>cd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 08:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If only that was the root of the problem...

but you fail to ask yourself how it is that they can become terrified.


It&#039;s a lot of things unfortuately; Racism, Guilt complex, Induced states of fear, Disregard for real world education, distance, the culture of convenience.... the compiling of issues continues.

All of these psychological elements will eventually bring the construct down, the fear of a bomb under a guy&#039;s jacket is a good destraction from what their real enemy is I think, and that is their own unfathomed levels of utter stupidity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If only that was the root of the problem&#8230;</p>
<p>but you fail to ask yourself how it is that they can become terrified.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a lot of things unfortuately; Racism, Guilt complex, Induced states of fear, Disregard for real world education, distance, the culture of convenience&#8230;. the compiling of issues continues.</p>
<p>All of these psychological elements will eventually bring the construct down, the fear of a bomb under a guy&#8217;s jacket is a good destraction from what their real enemy is I think, and that is their own unfathomed levels of utter stupidity.</p>
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		<title>By: iggy</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 05:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i, as a white man who has visited Palestine and Israel, am in awe of the restraint of this Palestinian man; to contain the rage that comes from the ongoing humiliations at checkpoints and the impotence and humiliation a man  has to endure when his home is bulldozed. i have seen this.  and i see the same exhaustion in this young mans eyes that i have seen in so many Palestinians mens eyes. it is the psychological cruelty of the occupation.
and i also feel sad for the young Israeli, maybe 20 years old, that he has to enforce the injustice and cruelty, and in the process corrupt his own soul. in Israel, what i experienced more than anything else was fear, fear and denial. this young israeli represents fear as much as zionist colonialism.
having sat and listened to many Palestinian men; having been invited into homes, i know one thing: Palestinians are people of the heart, hospitable beyond measure, and ready to forgive the oppressors as soon as the oppressors wake up from their collective bad dream.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i, as a white man who has visited Palestine and Israel, am in awe of the restraint of this Palestinian man; to contain the rage that comes from the ongoing humiliations at checkpoints and the impotence and humiliation a man  has to endure when his home is bulldozed. i have seen this.  and i see the same exhaustion in this young mans eyes that i have seen in so many Palestinians mens eyes. it is the psychological cruelty of the occupation.<br />
and i also feel sad for the young Israeli, maybe 20 years old, that he has to enforce the injustice and cruelty, and in the process corrupt his own soul. in Israel, what i experienced more than anything else was fear, fear and denial. this young israeli represents fear as much as zionist colonialism.<br />
having sat and listened to many Palestinian men; having been invited into homes, i know one thing: Palestinians are people of the heart, hospitable beyond measure, and ready to forgive the oppressors as soon as the oppressors wake up from their collective bad dream.</p>
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